to take from me -- >> you are a good man, steve. >> when a $9 billion company, you know what we are capable of. do you? >> rose: joining me now is the director gus van sant and the movie cowriters and starts, john i can'i can't sin krakinski andt dayton, i am pleased to have them here to talk about this movie. tell me how it began. >> i had the idea about two years ago to do a movie about american identity .. and my dad grew up in a small steel mill town just outside of pittsburgh and the way he talked about his growing up, his dad had three jobs and he didn't have a lot, i an ignorant child i said your childhood was awful? >> no, it was fantastic, we had family, friends and community and the belief tomorrow would be a better day, i feel we have moved so far away from that, i want to tell the story about these communities being affected although the noise from the, so practicing became a perfect backdrop to the issue of these people going through a complicated decision and i brought that idea to matt and he was looking at the director at the time and we were off and running. >>

was he? >> tim cook came by for an interview last week. part of it was animated by the fact that steve jobs famously bemoan it had fact that he was never person of the year and i thout -- rose: why wn't ? >> well, i guess the timing was never right he thought he was going to be person of the year in 1984. that the computer was going to be the thing of the year and i thought about steve last year but, of course, he died during the year. we've never put a dead person as person of the year before and i didn't think that was a great -- >> rose: so you missed the opportunity so therefore -- >> so therefore i thought -- i wanted people to look at tim cook. he's had an hay maizing year, he's doubled the market cap of apple since steve died. the number ofaches over the past year has been extraordinary and i think he's an interesting fellow. >> rose: and malala yousafzai. >> yes. malala was a great crowd favorite and she's an extraordinarily brave young woman she would be both the symbol and the reality of somebody who is courageously standing up for women's rights, girls rights, the right of y

ford and george stevens and those-- >> george steve tens only did one western. >> rose: what "giants?" >> a more than day western purpose western-esque. it's a soap opera. "dynasty." but i can't stand john ford gli know you can't and i'm trying to find out why. >> one, i think he was a racist ( bleep ). he wor a klan uniform ride of in "birth of a nation." he's one of the klan riders. let's look at john ford and billiam wendy. ford started his career wearing a klan robe. whitney directed the dramatics singing, "what you see is what you get." i know what side i'm on. ( laughter ) >> rose: so the movie here, tell me what it's about in a sense. not what happened in the movie. but in the end it's about? >> in the end -- >> rose: what is it its enduring quality? >> at the end of the day, i think... it true empowerment for the black male. watching the film. and true empowerment for the black male at that period of time. i remember, it was funny. you know, there is-- there has only been one movie that kind of dealt with the subject that i'm dealing with a little bit that touched on it. and

it off. >> rose: steve wynn who you admire greatly is opening up wynn resorts. at the opening about three or four weeks ago he has great chefs, probably would have loved to have had you. he has one rule, though: the chef has to be there. >> uh-huh. yes. >> rose: elaine decass has a number of restaurants. he's on your list of top ten? >> without a doubt. somebody asked me on the plane yesterday "if you're such a hands-on chef, who does the cooking when you're not there?" the same people that do it when i am there. >> rose: (laughs) >> how do they get where they want to go if they're not given the reigns from time to time. so i am comfortable with what we're doing and i can guarantee the level of perfection. but i said to this person who asked me that question, can i ask you a very important question and he said yeah, what's that? i said you've got the most amazing suit on. >> he said it's armani. >> i said how much? he said a thousand dollars. i said when you bought it did you ask if gorgio stitched it? >> rose: (laughs) >> and that's the same level of peck answer the in my restaurant >> r

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